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    Post by Shade on November 11th 2010, 6:25 pm

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1328703/Remembrance-Day-Poppy-burning-Muslim-protesters-mar-Armistice-Day.html

    Islamic protesters sparked fury today after they burned a model of a poppy and deliberately broke the silence at Armistice Day commemorations in central London.

    As millions of Britons fell silent to remember those who have died in war, members of a group called Muslims Against Crusades clashed with police during an 'emergency demonstration' in Kensington, west London.
    As the clock struck 11am, the Islamic protesters burned a model of a poppy and chanted 'British soldiers burn in hell'.

    Inflaming tensions: The Muslim protesters set fire to a poppy near Hyde Park today

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    They held banners which read 'Islam will dominate' and 'Our dead are in paradise, your dead are in hell'.
    The Muslims Against Crusades website includes graphic images of children wounded in warfare and the torture of detainees at Abu Ghraib.
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    The protest, in Exhibition Road, near Hyde Park, involved about 50 people while about another 50 counter-demonstrators had to be kept apart from the group by a line of police.
    Three men were arrested at the scene - two for public order offences and one for assaulting a police officer.
    Shameful: Muslim protesters break the Armistice Day silence in central London today
    Lack of respect: Police escort Muslim protesters towards South KensingtonTube station after they began a protest in west London
    Clashes: English Defence League counter-demonstrators face off against police

    An English Defence League counter-demonstrator is led away from the scene
    Asad Ullah, of Muslims Against Crusades, said: 'We are demonstrating because this day is a day of remembrance to remember every single fallen soldier, including those killed in Afghanistan and Iraq.
    'We find it disgusting that innocent people, innocent children, have been killed in an illegal and unjust war and we are demonstrating against that.
    'We want the Government to pull the troops out from these countries and to stop interfering in our affairs.'

    Mr Ullah added: 'We would like to have a protest closer to the memorial but it is difficult to get access. We want to break the silence and say, "What about the silence for others that have died?'"
    Earlier this year, members of the group were involved in violent clashes with far-Right groups during a troop march in Barking, east London.

    A series of incendiary comments were posted on a social networking website linked to the English Defence League.
    Some members pledged to attend while others showered the Islamic group with abuse and criticised police for allowing the demonstration to take place.
    An English Defence League protester is taken from the scene by a police officer today
    English Defence League protester Clive Donnellan, 49, a construction manager said: 'The MAC could have chosen a more sensitive day to protest. They are preaching hate and although it's great to have free speech this shouldn't be happening today. They can come down any other day and say what they think.'

    It is understood the event took place in Kensington because it is outside a protected zone around Parliament where spontaneous protests are banned.
    Police were questioning people they suspected were preparing to travel to Kensington after arriving at Victoria Station.
    It is thought Muslims Against Crusades is a splinter group of Islam4UK, founded by Anjem Choudary.
    Elsewhere as the clock struck 11am, the nation paused to mark the anniversary of Armistice Day, when peace returned to Europe at the end of the First World War.
    Prime Minister David Cameron marks Remembrance Day with Brigadier David Greenwood (left) at Gloster Valley, South Korea, where he is attending a G20 summit
    Wearing their poppies with pride, people joined in the two-minute silence as various commemoration services and events were held around the country.
    The agreement between Germany and the Allies after four years of fighting took effect at the 'eleventh hour of the eleventh day of the eleventh month' of 1918.

    Defence Secretary Liam Fox and the Archbishop of Canterbury Dr Rowan Williams joined war heroes, service personnel, veterans, military associations and schoolchildren for a service of remembrance at the Cenotaph in Whitehall, central London.
    The road was closed and crowds lined the street for the poignant ceremony and wreath-laying.
    Amid grey skies and damp conditions, there was applause as Victoria and George Cross holders took their places around the monument.


    David Cameron (4th left) at the Korean National War Memorial in Seoul along with French Finance Minister Christine Lagarde (left), Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper (2nd left) and Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard (3rd left)


    Prime Minister David Cameron marks Remembrance Day at Gloster Valley, South Korea where he laid a wreath
    David Cameron marked Remembrance Day by laying a wreath at the site of the British Army's bloodiest battle since the end of the Second World War.
    The 1st Battalion, Gloucestershire Regiment, were cut off and surrounded by vastly superior Chinese Communist forces during the Battle of the Imjin River from April 22 to 25, 1951, in the Korean War.
    Running short of water and ammunition, the 'Glorious Glosters' held their hilltop position through a full day and a night, repelling waves of Chinese attackers.
    Some 59 men died in the defence of the hill and 526 were taken prisoner - 180 of them wounded. Another 34 men died in captivity.
    But their heroic stand delayed the advance of the Communist troops, preventing them from outflanking the forces of the Republic of Korea and the United Nations.


    Mark of respect: Lloyds insurance employees observe the silence at a ceremony at the HQ in London
    Helping the injured: Julie Dove from the Poppy Appeal attends an Armistice Day service at Chester Cathedral with a member of the 1st Battalion the Mercians who lost his legs in combat
    Fallen family: Jonny Osborne, 7, at the Cenotaph in Whitehall to honour his two great uncles, signalman Len Burton and sapper Lawrence Burton who were both missing in action during the war
    As a result, the Allied forces were able to take up positions at a defensible line further south and prevent a direct assault on capital Seoul.
    Two Victoria Crosses were awarded for valour, including to the Glosters' commander Lieutenant-Colonel James Carne, who was one of those taken prisoner.
    Sombrely dressed in dark coat and tie and sporting a red poppy on his lapel, the Prime Minister was joined by the defence attache at the UK's Seoul embassy, Brigadier David Greenwood, to lay a wreath of poppies at a memorial to the Glosters.
    Mr Cameron - who is in South Korea for a summit of the G20 group of major economies - spent a few moments in silent contemplation at the memorial in what is now known by grateful Koreans as Gloster Valley.
    The 29th Brigade, of which the Glosters formed part, suffered 1,091 casualties, dead, wounded or missing during the Imjin River offensive, while the Chinese casualties are thought to have reached around 10,000.

    A total of 1,078 UK troops died and 2,674 were wounded during the Korean War from 1950-53.

    Mr Cameron later participated in a Remembrance Day ceremony at the Korean National War Memorial in Seoul.
    Along with his Canadian and Australian counterparts Stephen Harper and Julia Gillard and French finance minister Christine Lagarde, the Prime Minister laid a wreath at the memorial to United Nations troops who died in the Korean War.

    Concern: At Westminster Abbey, the Duke of Edinburgh shakes hands with Lauren Levy (right) whose ex-boyfriend Andrew Griffiths died in Afghanistan
    Tribute: Poppies are thrown into a fountain at Trafalgar Square, central London


    Hero: Private Johnson Beharry, who won the Victoria Cross, speaks to Defence Secretary Liam Fox at a service of remembrance at the Cenotaph
    Not forgotten: Lucy Aldridge with her sons George, seven (left) and Archie, five, at Bredenbury War Memorial, Herefordshire, look at the name of her son, Rifleman William Aldridge, who was killed, aged 18, in Afghanistan in 2009
    Mr Cameron met around 40 British veterans of the war who had come on a trip organised by the Korean Veterans Association and subsidised by the Seoul government.
    Bob Huyton, 79, of Telford, Shropshire, was a 19-year-old on National Service when he served in Korea with the Royal Army Ordnance, helping transport the wounded back from the front line to Seoul.
    'It was a tough war', he said. 'We were caught up in two ambushes and I lost one of my best friends. I'm hoping to find his grave in the Pusan war cemetery before I go back.

    'I've been meaning to come back for a long time, and it's been very emotional. You'd hardly recognise it was the same country, it's changed so much, but all the memories come flooding back.'
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    I, for one, find this poppy-burning business very offensive. Our troops gave their lives trying to defend our freedom. These guys have political differences. They don't need to insult our troops for that.

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    Post by chaosenchantment on November 12th 2010, 1:06 pm

    i guess all of the countries will merge together at some point, or hopefully so. then there wouldn't be problems like this ...? why even have separate countries anyways.
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    Post by Auflodern on November 12th 2010, 4:17 pm

    I'm friends with Muslims they hate this sh*t!

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    Post by chaosenchantment on November 12th 2010, 4:35 pm

    of course the problem with merging all of the countries would be "whose the president gonna be or some bs like that" well, huh. I guess the whole world could have a worldwide vote, right? nice try.

    alright here's my plan. push all the countries together (a la... physically conect them or something) anyways there isn't enough land, right (OVERCROWDING) so if we just created extra land (which IS possible) to connect the different countries together. THEN combine them all into one country? THen there would be enough land for everyone (there would be extra land from the connections) and you'll be like, let's drive to Norway today.

    Okay here's my actual plan.

    Create sky-high freeways connected by highspeed rail system that can circle the globe within maybe, 5 hours or something like that? The sky high bridge system also contains the main land where everyone lives. Basically its a city that spans all the way around the world. The ground earth is reserved for mining, farming, and some other activities like that. The rest is left for Nature to rebuild itself.

    If you work on a farm, you basically would commute to work via elevator to the ground but everyone would actually live in the upper bridge span. Actually ok this would work.

    Daytime activities take place on the ground. Nighttime, entertainment and dining and also living facilities are on the sky high bridge system/network. There are elevators every so often to go down OR you can sail down whenever you want on a parachite or something.

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    Post by chaosenchantment on November 12th 2010, 4:39 pm

    religion should seriesouly go away and die it causes all of this. :study:
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    Post by Shade on November 12th 2010, 5:33 pm

    chaosenchantment wrote:of course the problem with merging all of the countries would be "whose the president gonna be or some bs like that" well, huh. I guess the whole world could have a worldwide vote, right? nice try.

    alright here's my plan. push all the countries together (a la... physically conect them or something) anyways there isn't enough land, right (OVERCROWDING) so if we just created extra land (which IS possible) to connect the different countries together. THEN combine them all into one country? THen there would be enough land for everyone (there would be extra land from the connections) and you'll be like, let's drive to Norway today.

    Okay here's my actual plan.

    Create sky-high freeways connected by highspeed rail system that can circle the globe within maybe, 5 hours or something like that? The sky high bridge system also contains the main land where everyone lives. Basically its a city that spans all the way around the world. The ground earth is reserved for mining, farming, and some other activities like that. The rest is left for Nature to rebuild itself.

    If you work on a farm, you basically would commute to work via elevator to the ground but everyone would actually live in the upper bridge span. Actually ok this would work.

    Daytime activities take place on the ground. Nighttime, entertainment and dining and also living facilities are on the sky high bridge system/network. There are elevators every so often to go down OR you can sail down whenever you want on a parachite or something.

    Wonderful Idea. And I would be roaring my support but for one thing:

    Cost

    Even when the world economy was strong, it couldn't have happened. And especially considering the Blair/Bush duo were in power, it was an impossibility. Now we're in a worldwide recession. I don't think we have enough money for stuff on that scale yet.

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    Post by chaosenchantment on November 12th 2010, 9:24 pm

    yeah ur right about that. they couldn't even build that one tunnel from New Jersey to NYC due to the cost. let alone the whole worldwide SUPERSTRUCTURE. that's what its called. heh but the closest thing is, the Internet. so i guess we could just recreate the Matrix with a worldwide superstructure. building it virtually would cost nothing. only how do humans survive if they are unconsiouse ?? as in, they can't eat anything, their bodies would shrivel up to nothing. you'd have to actually build self-sustaining body cavities for every human being first. then how would people copulate and reproduce. lol, idk. hey i have a better idea...
    end the human race entirely with a self-imposed human extinction.
    :plode::faic::pbj::metaldance::...::plode:
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    Post by Shade on November 13th 2010, 4:03 am

    chaosenchantment wrote:
    yeah ur right about that. they couldn't even build that one tunnel from New Jersey to NYC due to the cost. let alone the whole worldwide SUPERSTRUCTURE. that's what its called. heh but the closest thing is, the Internet. so i guess we could just recreate the Matrix with a worldwide superstructure. building it virtually would cost nothing. only how do humans survive if they are unconsiouse ?? as in, they can't eat anything, their bodies would shrivel up to nothing. you'd have to actually build self-sustaining body cavities for every human being first. then how would people copulate and reproduce. lol, idk. hey i have a better idea...
    end the human race entirely with a self-imposed human extinction.
    :plode::faic::pbj::metaldance::...::plode:

    I'm not sure about making ourselves extinct.....

    I like the Internet idea though.
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    Post by Auflodern on November 13th 2010, 9:12 am

    chaosenchantment wrote:religion should seriesouly go away and die it causes all of this. :study:

    1.The people who can really call themselves christians really could care less about protests.
    2. I'm Catholic so I should know
    3. without religeon there wouldn't be morals or tradition

    It's people like you who I hate, you understand nothing about how society works and think you're always right.

    That's MY THING! DON'T YOU BE TAKING MY THING!

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    Post by chaosenchantment on November 13th 2010, 11:41 am

    uhuhuhhhh :augh: sorry Auflodern didn't mean to spread hate around :(: but I come from a Christian background. my family is pretty religious. maybe I spoke too strongly. sorry!!! Tears i guess I was putting it up there with like, having different countries. why have different countries, religions and also launguages. anyways hope you don't hate me

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