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    Post by Zez July 24th 2012, 4:23 pm

    How much freedom is too much? Is there or should there be a limit to it?

    I realize that generally speaking the more freedom the better, but at some point if there's not a level of organization or set boundaries, entropy and Murphy's law dictate that something undesirable will eventually happen and that freedom will be abused.

    What do you think?
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    Post by The Freedom Fighter July 24th 2012, 4:26 pm

    Movie inspiration perhaps? Silly

    But I'd say we could have more, so long as we regulate things. As I like to say, your happiness should not come from ruining the happiness of others.
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    Post by Guest July 24th 2012, 4:27 pm

    I agree with you.
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    Post by Schnickelfritz July 24th 2012, 5:14 pm

    If there was no freedom we'd just have The Fighter. And that was a bad movie.
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    Post by Zez July 24th 2012, 5:18 pm

    Sushimo wrote:I agree with you.

    With who?
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    Post by Guest July 24th 2012, 5:27 pm

    You.
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    Post by 84 July 24th 2012, 5:29 pm

    Are you implying that we don't already abuse it?
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    Post by Guest July 24th 2012, 5:30 pm

    Of course we don't, only icetech does.
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    Post by 84 July 24th 2012, 5:33 pm

    No, everybody abuses it.
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    Post by Zez July 24th 2012, 5:35 pm

    84 wrote:No, everybody abuses it.

    Abuse is subjective.
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    Post by Guest July 24th 2012, 7:09 pm

    The less freedom, the better. We need to live in cages.
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    Post by Zez July 24th 2012, 7:13 pm

    Sushimo wrote:The less freedom, the better. We need to live in cages.

    As long as my cage has internet.
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    Post by Guest July 24th 2012, 7:14 pm

    Zez wrote:
    Sushimo wrote:The less freedom, the better. We need to live in cages.

    As long as my cage has internet.

    But if everyone else didn't who would be the trollers? Who would join TSC? Who would rage about Sonic games?!?!?!
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    Post by TrueBlue52 August 2nd 2012, 10:51 pm

    All I'm saying is

    "YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE TO WORK FOR FREE"
    "YOU SHOULD MAKE FREE WORK FOR YOU!"
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    Post by *ShiningStar* August 3rd 2012, 12:21 am

    TrueBlue52 wrote:All I'm saying is

    "YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE TO WORK FOR FREE"
    "YOU SHOULD MAKE FREE WORK FOR YOU!"
    ^ What he said.
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    Post by Moran August 3rd 2012, 5:39 am

    You have enough freedom the very instant that your gaining of any more liberties causes the loss of liberties to another person. If less than this threshold, you have too little; if more, you have too much.

    The only problem is, people tend to not like other people for a million different reasons. So being different from how whoever's in charge of a particular area wants you to be tends to cause rapid, structured, and selective oppression, usually on claimed moralistic grounds, with punishments up to and including death, at which point a person, rendered a corpse, is inert matter that does not process an abstraction such as freedom.
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    Post by Zezima August 3rd 2012, 3:18 pm

    Mly wrote:You have enough freedom the very instant that your gaining of any more liberties causes the loss of liberties to another person. If less than this threshold, you have too little; if more, you have too much.

    The only problem is, people tend to not like other people for a million different reasons. So being different from how whoever's in charge of a particular area wants you to be tends to cause rapid, structured, and selective oppression, usually on claimed moralistic grounds, with punishments up to and including death, at which point a person, rendered a corpse, is inert matter that does not process an abstraction such as freedom.

    Hey, stop that kinda talk before I ban you.
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    Post by *ShiningStar* August 3rd 2012, 4:43 pm

    Mly wrote:You have enough freedom the very instant that your gaining of any more liberties causes the loss of liberties to another person. If less than this threshold, you have too little; if more, you have too much.

    The only problem is, people tend to not like other people for a million different reasons. So being different from how whoever's in charge of a particular area wants you to be tends to cause rapid, structured, and selective oppression, usually on claimed moralistic grounds, with punishments up to and including death, at which point a person, rendered a corpse, is inert matter that does not process an abstraction such as freedom.
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