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    Post by Hayzer July 19th 2010, 9:49 pm

    Gin93 wrote:
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    She floats away in the sky at the end of Adventure.

    So does chaos, but he turns up fine in Sonic battle, what does that say about tikal

    Chaos is a god...
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    Post by TheShadowWalker July 19th 2010, 9:56 pm

    Hayzer wrote:
    Gin93 wrote: So does chaos, but he turns up fine in Sonic battle, what does that say about tikal

    Chaos is a god...

    OK, question:
    Was Tikal in Multiplayer, Story, or not at all? Also, Chaos is a GOD, as Hayzer said. He was the original M.E. protector.
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    Post by Gin93 July 19th 2010, 10:16 pm

    TheShadowWalker wrote:
    Hayzer wrote:

    Chaos is a god...

    OK, question:
    Was Tikal in Multiplayer, Story, or not at all? Also, Chaos is a GOD, as Hayzer said. He was the original M.E. protector.
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    Post by Super Racer Z July 20th 2010, 5:19 am

    Gin93 wrote:
    TheShadowWalker wrote:

    OK, question:
    Was Tikal in Multiplayer, Story, or not at all? Also, Chaos is a GOD, as Hayzer said. He was the original M.E. protector.
    tikal didnrt die end of storyProof that Tikal is alive. - Page 2 265300 besides....why did the both float? the master emerald never killed her

    Tikal was sealed in the emerald for 4000 years and is constantly turning into a floating ball of spiritual energy (speculated) throughout Sonic Adventure. She may or may not be gone, but she definitely isn't alive in the same sense as the other characters.
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    Post by Shade July 20th 2010, 9:22 am

    Super Racer Z wrote:
    Gin93 wrote:tikal didnrt die end of storyProof that Tikal is alive. - Page 2 265300 besides....why did the both float? the master emerald never killed her

    Tikal was sealed in the emerald for 4000 years and is constantly turning into a floating ball of spiritual energy (speculated) throughout Sonic Adventure. She may or may not be gone, but she definitely isn't alive in the same sense as the other characters.

    Indeed. Like I said before, Tikal is not alive (not in the conventional sense, and, as SRZ said, not in the same sense as the other characters). But her spirit and her wisdom still exist, and she is still a viable character, and she is still able to think and reason like all the other characters, even after she died.
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    Post by Gin93 July 20th 2010, 9:51 am

    no shes still alive, a lot people i know says shes alive, even the ones i don't
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    Post by Shade July 20th 2010, 10:03 am

    Gin93 wrote:no shes still alive, a lot people i know says shes alive, even the ones i don't

    Has she retained her body, and is she in full control of it?
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    Post by Gin93 July 20th 2010, 1:41 pm

    Sweet Silence wrote:
    Gin93 wrote:no shes still alive, a lot people i know says shes alive, even the ones i don't

    Has she retained her body, and is she in full control of it?
    yes at the end, she had the power of the master emerald to hide her true form, sonic channel says nothing about her being dead
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    Post by Shade July 20th 2010, 2:02 pm

    Gin93 wrote:
    Sweet Silence wrote:

    Has she retained her body, and is she in full control of it?
    yes at the end, she had the power of the master emerald to hide her true form, sonic channel says nothing about her being dead

    What is Tikal's true form?
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    Post by Gin93 July 20th 2010, 2:17 pm

    Sweet Silence wrote:
    Gin93 wrote: yes at the end, she had the power of the master emerald to hide her true form, sonic channel says nothing about her being dead

    What is Tikal's true form?
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    Post by Shade July 20th 2010, 4:03 pm

    Gin93 wrote:
    Sweet Silence wrote:

    What is Tikal's true form?
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    Well, she's probably not alive, then. She was a spirit ball after she came out.
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    Post by Gin93 July 20th 2010, 4:05 pm

    Sweet Silence wrote:
    Gin93 wrote:
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    Well, she's probably not alive, then. She was a spirit ball after she came out.
    she used the powers of the master emerald come on!
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    Post by The Freedom Fighter July 20th 2010, 7:31 pm

    Spirit balls don't even fit in with the normal idea of the dead. Ghosts of various forms are more proper. A spirit ball doesn't do that.
    Besides, the Master Emerald gifting her with all these powers explains away tons of problems, like how she can send the characters to the past (it could be visions too, but it could really tie in with the idea Chaos Control allows time travel from SNG).
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    Post by Gin93 July 20th 2010, 8:01 pm

    The Freedom Fighter wrote:Spirit balls don't even fit in with the normal idea of the dead. Ghosts of various forms are more proper. A spirit ball doesn't do that.
    Besides, the Master Emerald gifting her with all these powers explains away tons of problems, like how she can send the characters to the past (it could be visions too, but it could really tie in with the idea Chaos Control allows time travel from SNG).
    you can talk to them so thats sotra time travling
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    Post by The Freedom Fighter July 20th 2010, 8:10 pm

    Gin93 wrote:
    The Freedom Fighter wrote:Spirit balls don't even fit in with the normal idea of the dead. Ghosts of various forms are more proper. A spirit ball doesn't do that.
    Besides, the Master Emerald gifting her with all these powers explains away tons of problems, like how she can send the characters to the past (it could be visions too, but it could really tie in with the idea Chaos Control allows time travel from SNG).
    you can talk to them so thats sotra time travling
    That's my main reason for time travel as well, but there are fictions which allow talking and stuff in visions, so it could be either I suppose.
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    Post by Gin93 July 20th 2010, 10:35 pm

    tikal being sealed and being still alive kinds mirriors shade
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    Post by Shade July 21st 2010, 5:50 pm

    Gin93 wrote:
    The Freedom Fighter wrote:Spirit balls don't even fit in with the normal idea of the dead. Ghosts of various forms are more proper. A spirit ball doesn't do that.
    Besides, the Master Emerald gifting her with all these powers explains away tons of problems, like how she can send the characters to the past (it could be visions too, but it could really tie in with the idea Chaos Control allows time travel from SNG).
    you can talk to them so thats sotra time travling

    You mean that Tikal was time travelling?
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    Post by Hayzer July 22nd 2010, 1:28 pm

    The Freedom Fighter wrote:Spirit balls don't even fit in with the normal idea of the dead. Ghosts of various forms are more proper. A spirit ball doesn't do that.

    We're also talking about a speedy blue hedgehog that can walk and talk and has a best friend who's a mutant two-tailed fox that flies that use the power of the colorful magical gemstones of unlimited power to turn into glowy yellow plot devices.

    A spirit in the form of a ball shouldn't be that unheard of. Besides. Uhu (the wind spirit from Secret Rings) is a ball, and it's very clear he's a spirit.

    It's a cartoon series. That's my point. They couldn't pull off scary ghosts, so they used balls of light. It's not unheard of in cartoons.
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    Post by Shade July 22nd 2010, 1:45 pm

    Hayzer wrote:
    The Freedom Fighter wrote:Spirit balls don't even fit in with the normal idea of the dead. Ghosts of various forms are more proper. A spirit ball doesn't do that.

    We're also talking about a speedy blue hedgehog that can walk and talk and has a best friend who's a mutant two-tailed fox that flies that use the power of the colorful magical gemstones of unlimited power to turn into glowy yellow plot devices.

    A spirit in the form of a ball shouldn't be that unheard of. Besides. Uhu (the wind spirit from Secret Rings) is a ball, and it's very clear he's a spirit.

    It's a cartoon series. That's my point. They couldn't pull off scary ghosts, so they used balls of light. It's not unheard of in cartoons.

    As long as the spirit of the hedgehog remains intact (i.e. it can walk, talk, reason, argue, love etc.) it does not matter what form the spirit takes, be it a ball, a ghost, or anything else.
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    Post by Gin93 July 22nd 2010, 2:01 pm

    Tikal still is alive .
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    Post by Hayzer July 22nd 2010, 2:16 pm

    Sweet Silence wrote:
    Hayzer wrote:

    We're also talking about a speedy blue hedgehog that can walk and talk and has a best friend who's a mutant two-tailed fox that flies that use the power of the colorful magical gemstones of unlimited power to turn into glowy yellow plot devices.

    A spirit in the form of a ball shouldn't be that unheard of. Besides. Uhu (the wind spirit from Secret Rings) is a ball, and it's very clear he's a spirit.

    It's a cartoon series. That's my point. They couldn't pull off scary ghosts, so they used balls of light. It's not unheard of in cartoons.

    As long as the spirit of the hedgehog remains intact (i.e. it can walk, talk, reason, argue, love etc.) it does not matter what form the spirit takes, be it a ball, a ghost, or anything else.

    That's exactly my point. Tikal is a Spirit because she's represented by a glowy terracotta ball of light.

    Gin93 wrote:Tikal still is alive .

    Even though we've thrown every single possible evidence against it at you?
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    Post by Shade July 22nd 2010, 4:34 pm



    That's exactly my point. Tikal is a Spirit because she's represented by a glowy terracotta ball of light.


    That sounds exactly like a spirit to me.
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    Post by The Freedom Fighter July 22nd 2010, 5:34 pm

    Hayzer wrote:
    The Freedom Fighter wrote:Spirit balls don't even fit in with the normal idea of the dead. Ghosts of various forms are more proper. A spirit ball doesn't do that.

    We're also talking about a speedy blue hedgehog that can walk and talk and has a best friend who's a mutant two-tailed fox that flies that use the power of the colorful magical gemstones of unlimited power to turn into glowy yellow plot devices.

    A spirit in the form of a ball shouldn't be that unheard of. Besides. Uhu (the wind spirit from Secret Rings) is a ball, and it's very clear he's a spirit.

    It's a cartoon series. That's my point. They couldn't pull off scary ghosts, so they used balls of light. It's not unheard of in cartoons.
    No, not that. I mean with the series' idea of ghosts. If Tikal was a ghost, she'd be the only one seen as a ball of light. All other ghosts have been more of the stereotypical kind.
    Uhu was a genie, not a spirit.
    And they easily can have scary ghosts and have.
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    Post by Shade July 22nd 2010, 5:37 pm

    If Tikal was a ghost, she'd be the only one seen as a ball of light.

    If Tikal was a ghost, she would have a clearly defined form, but she would be ethereal.
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    Post by Silver4ever November 18th 2012, 2:25 pm

    I think that tikal is alive because based on the information i seen it proves she is alive she is just inside the master emerald

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