1:32 is where the good stuff is.
And an article too.
http://www.blisteredthumbs.net/2012/01/sopa-whitehouse/
Yes, the website owner will be notified, but they only have 5 days to file a countermeasure according to this bill. So what happens if Joe T. Siteowner is away on vacation when they attempt to contact him? Or unable to respond due to some other real life complication? He's screwed, that's what.Shadiwulf wrote:Shadowsgirl wrote:
And the real kicker?
They wouldn't even need PROOF of illegal activity. Only suspicion. When it comes to legislation, the things that are NOT said can be just as important as the things that ARE. And this bill does NOT say that any sort of proof would be needed before action is taken against an offending site. There's a reason cops have to get a warrant before they can search your home: to prevent them from abusing their power and authority. The government's approach to piracy with SOPA is to shoot first and ask questions later, because the ends justify the means to them. This sort of thing is incredibly similar to how China censors its internet.
I just need to point out, that this is a lie. The website owner WILL get notified first. The only reason the website would go down is because the owner failed to obey orders.
This bill isn't as bad as people make it out to be. It won't kill the internet.
Mly wrote:I'm honestly not worried at this point. You can't stop irritus. And that's what the internet basically is in this situation: Irritus. Invalid. Void. Such is the sort of monster whose heart you can pull out and cut into pieces, and yet the heart will continue to beat. Such is the monster whose brain you can empty a clip into, and yet it still walks forward, unrelenting and unaffected, coming ever closer to its enemies to bend or even break them. The government is not, was never, and will never be almighty.
Mly wrote:I'm honestly not worried at this point. You can't stop irritus. And that's what the internet basically is in this situation: Irritus. Invalid. Void. Such is the sort of monster whose heart you can pull out and cut into pieces, and yet the heart will continue to beat. Such is the monster whose brain you can empty a clip into, and yet it still walks forward, unrelenting and unaffected, coming ever closer to its enemies to bend or even break them. The government is not, was never, and will never be almighty.
Shadiwulf wrote:Shadowgirl, just so you know, DNS blocking was removed from the bill, just so you know.
SOPA is kind of worthless now. Even if it can come back (and it's very, very unlikely), it seems like the government doesn't even need it. They can take down sites with barely a warning, and I foresee an entanglement with Youtube soon if they stick to this hardazz approach.Shadowsgirl wrote:So just because they remove the DNS filtering doesn't mean SOPA is now a harmless bill. A tiger without its claws can still bite.
If the government gets taken down, it'll go worse, then better, then maybe worse again, and then better. That's just how it goes. The problem will be that if our government goes down, it's probably going to have repercussions for the whole world.Zez wrote:It's not the internet I'm worried about, it's the government. This is their assertion of unconstitutional dominance over people and their activities. If this continues we have the right to abolish the current government and establish a new one.
Problem is, how much better will the next one be?
The Constitution itself is sound...it's the people serving as our elected officials that are the problem.Zez wrote:It's not the internet I'm worried about, it's the government. This is their assertion of unconstitutional dominance over people and their activities. If this continues we have the right to abolish the current government and establish a new one.
Problem is, how much better will the next one be?
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