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    Post by The Freedom Fighter March 19th 2009, 12:04 am

    Crystal Chaotix 3 wrote:But it does seem equally stupid that he'd put Elise, the girl he wants the flames of disaster from, on a train headed straight for a bunch of explosives. He can't do a think about his plan to get them if she died.
    Well, Elise's death does trigger the release of Iblis.
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    The Freedom Fighter wrote:No, there had to be two trains. Elise was on one train and Ivo on the other. Ivo is parked when Shadow speaks with him, and when Shadow leaves to help Sonic, Ivo follows him to capture Elise.
    Never. That's not it at all. Look deeper into the timeline and you will see the truth about Eggman's suicidal personality.
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    Post by Erazor March 19th 2009, 12:04 am

    Crystal Chaotix 3 wrote:
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    Crystal Chaotix 3 wrote:Yeah, I'm thinking that it'd be really weird if there weren't a second train.

    That conversation Shadow had with Eggman was going on while Sonic saved Elise from the other train.

    That has to be it.

    The reason the tracks are the same is because they were too lazy to change the level design.
    The game was supposed to have a deep, in depth story. You can't just overlook small details in a story like that.

    Then why ignore the sense of all of this. The train in both Sonic and Shadow's levels frequently kept stopping, one was being blocked and pounded on and the other was being saved from crashing into these explosives. If they were the same train and both Sonic and Shadow were after them at the same time then how much sense could that possibly make? And then when Sonic ends up finishing the level by Eggman's train he's seen holding Elise meaning that if it were the same train Sonic must've broken in, took Elise back, and ran off while Shadow and Eggman were talking inside it.

    But it does seem equally stupid that he'd put Elise, the girl he wants the flames of disaster from, on a train headed straight for a bunch of explosives. He can't do a think about his plan to get them if she died.

    This "in-depth" story is seriously messed up.
    Yes it is. That's why I love it. It allows me to think about things like Eggman accidentally killing his plans or himself.
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    Post by Crystal Chaotix 3 March 19th 2009, 12:10 am

    The Freedom Fighter wrote:
    Crystal Chaotix 3 wrote:But it does seem equally stupid that he'd put Elise, the girl he wants the flames of disaster from, on a train headed straight for a bunch of explosives. He can't do a think about his plan to get them if she died.
    Well, Elise's death does trigger the release of Iblis.

    When was that said?

    And if it's true why not kill her with those missiles he used so flashingly in the first cutscene after he took the chaos emerald from her. Or better yet when he was alone with her on the ship that whole time?
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    Post by Erazor March 19th 2009, 12:17 am

    Crystal Chaotix 3 wrote:
    The Freedom Fighter wrote:
    Crystal Chaotix 3 wrote:But it does seem equally stupid that he'd put Elise, the girl he wants the flames of disaster from, on a train headed straight for a bunch of explosives. He can't do a think about his plan to get them if she died.
    Well, Elise's death does trigger the release of Iblis.

    When was that said?

    And if it's true why not kill her with those missiles he used so flashingly in the first cutscene after he took the chaos emerald from her. Or better yet when he was alone with her on the ship that whole time?
    He actually doesn't know how to awaken the Flames of Disaster.


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    Post by The Freedom Fighter March 19th 2009, 12:18 am

    Crystal Chaotix 3 wrote:
    The Freedom Fighter wrote:
    Crystal Chaotix 3 wrote:But it does seem equally stupid that he'd put Elise, the girl he wants the flames of disaster from, on a train headed straight for a bunch of explosives. He can't do a think about his plan to get them if she died.
    Well, Elise's death does trigger the release of Iblis.

    When was that said?

    And if it's true why not kill her with those missiles he used so flashingly in the first cutscene after he took the chaos emerald from her. Or better yet when he was alone with her on the ship that whole time?
    When Tails reads the comp in the future, Elise died in the EC crash. Since Iblis is free in Silver's time and Elise died, it must be that death (or possibly murder or death without birth) causes Iblis to be free.
    Eggy isn't one to kill his enemies unless he has to.
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    Post by Zez March 19th 2009, 1:23 pm

    The Freedom Fighter wrote:Eggy isn't one to kill his enemies unless he has to.

    lol This explains far too much...
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    Post by Crystal Chaotix 3 March 19th 2009, 7:58 pm

    Too confusing... Couldn't Elise's death have been cancled out due to Sonic saving her from the ship crash when he went back in time for a do-over. Maybe Silver's future was reflecting from that timeline instead of the one where she died?

    ...Ugh. Too messed up of a story...
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    Post by The Freedom Fighter March 19th 2009, 8:40 pm

    Crystal Chaotix 3 wrote:Too confusing... Couldn't Elise's death have been cancled out due to Sonic saving her from the ship crash when he went back in time for a do-over. Maybe Silver's future was reflecting from that timeline instead of the one where she died?

    ...Ugh. Too messed up of a story...
    Technically it should have. But apparently Silver reached his future before Sonic reached the past. It's the only way to explain why Silver's time is ruined.
    When Sonic goes to the past and saves Elise, that creates an alternate timeline. So there are two: one where Sonic is gone, Elise is dead, and the Iblis reigns supreme, and another where Sonic saves Elise and Sonic dies, destroying all timelines.
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    Post by Crystal Chaotix 3 March 19th 2009, 8:49 pm

    The Freedom Fighter wrote:
    Crystal Chaotix 3 wrote:Too confusing... Couldn't Elise's death have been cancled out due to Sonic saving her from the ship crash when he went back in time for a do-over. Maybe Silver's future was reflecting from that timeline instead of the one where she died?

    ...Ugh. Too messed up of a story...
    Technically it should have. But apparently Silver reached his future before Sonic reached the past. It's the only way to explain why Silver's time is ruined.
    When Sonic goes to the past and saves Elise, that creates an alternate timeline. So there are two: one where Sonic is gone, Elise is dead, and the Iblis reigns supreme, and another where Sonic saves Elise and Sonic dies, destroying all timelines.

    Too confusing. I still don't think that's all there is too it. So I'll just drop this.
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    Post by Gamma The Great March 24th 2009, 5:43 am

    Sonic Avdenture Robotnik.
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    Post by Crystal Chaotix 3 March 24th 2009, 5:08 pm

    If I haven't said this I'll say it again since I'm too lazy to look 4 pages back and check.

    Unleashed Eggman conquers all.
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    Post by Gamma The Great March 26th 2009, 4:31 am

    SNG Robotnik.
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    Post by Crystal Chaotix 3 March 26th 2009, 8:45 pm

    Gamma The Great wrote:SNG Robotnik.

    Gamma The Great wrote:Sonic Avdenture Robotnik.

    What happened to this?
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    Post by Sonic Fan April 10th 2009, 1:50 pm

    I like Robotnik in AoStH best, he was sooo funny in that cartoon! XD I also like how evil he was in SatAM.
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    Post by Crystal Chaotix 3 April 10th 2009, 2:05 pm

    Sonic Fan wrote:I like Robotnik in AoStH best, he was sooo funny in that cartoon! XD I also like how evil he was in SatAM.

    He was so stereotypically evil in SatAM that he actually lacked a lot of realistic character.
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    Post by sykog April 10th 2009, 2:07 pm

    Crystal Chaotix 3 wrote:
    Sonic Fan wrote:I like Robotnik in AoStH best, he was sooo funny in that cartoon! XD I also like how evil he was in SatAM.

    He was so stereotypically evil in SatAM that he actually lacked a lot of realistic character.
    But hes not.. ever very realistic? :-__-:
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    Post by The Freedom Fighter April 10th 2009, 2:09 pm

    All the Robotniks are randomly evil. Only the game version and maybe Sonic x could have a reason, but I don't think Sega's pushed that.
    Not that randomly evil is a bad thing.
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    Post by Crystal Chaotix 3 April 10th 2009, 2:19 pm

    sykog77 wrote:
    Crystal Chaotix 3 wrote:
    Sonic Fan wrote:I like Robotnik in AoStH best, he was sooo funny in that cartoon! XD I also like how evil he was in SatAM.

    He was so stereotypically evil in SatAM that he actually lacked a lot of realistic character.
    But hes not.. ever very realistic? :-__-:

    Realistic character. As in more to him then just being there and being evil, having absolutely no personality other then that. It's completely boring and stale if you ask me.

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