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    Post by Zez June 17th 2009, 3:16 am

    State Sen. Kenneth LaValle, R-Port Jefferson, joined by Assemblyman Fred Thiele Jr., R-Sag Harbor, want a task force to start studying the matter. They claim Long Islanders send to Albany $3 billion more in taxes each year than they get back in state aid. The final straw, they say, is the measure calling for a $1.5 billion payroll tax to help bail out New York City's transit system.

    A couple of points worth mentioning: Many of those Long Islanders no doubt take advantage of that transit system when they commute to and from the city for work -- where they also earn the money that generates the taxes they pay to Albany. Cut off Long Island from the New York metro area, and you also cut yourself off from the industrial and financial lifeline that has generated nearly one-third of the state's tax revenue.

    There's something to be said for Long Island returning to its bucolic, pastoral past. But is that really what advocates of secession have in mind?
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    Post by Erazor June 17th 2009, 3:33 am

    Secession isn't necessary but I feel they should ease up on LI's taxes and start charging the rest of the state more.
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    Post by The Freedom Fighter June 17th 2009, 10:20 am

    It does seem they have higher living expenses, though I don't know much of the matter, other than I don't think Hilary was a good senator for them, but I don't really know about that either.
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    Post by codeorange June 17th 2009, 1:02 pm

    Long Island? Are you serious? That place could be the 51st state?

    Bad idea there. For a 51st state, I would propose splitting up either California or Michigan, but to be honest, I don't want to see more states being made.
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    Post by Erazor June 17th 2009, 1:27 pm

    codeorange wrote:Long Island? Are you serious? That place could be the 51st state?

    You're right. A small island off the coast of one of the most wealthy states in the U.S. that pays the majority of it's taxes isn't a major issue. Come to think of it, Long Island is about the same size as Rhode Island, if not bigger.

    Hey, let's make Puerto Rico a state. They totally deserve it. [/sarcasm]
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    Post by Roterblitz June 17th 2009, 1:43 pm

    We have a very successful dynamic with the rest of New York, I do think we deserve to be taxed differently, but we don't want to secede.
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    Post by Erazor June 17th 2009, 1:54 pm

    Roterblitz wrote:We have a very successful dynamic with the rest of New York, I do think we deserve to be taxed differently, but we don't want to secede.
    I don't think we should secede either. I just feel if any area in the U.S. deserved to be the next state it should be us. But, like you said, we should just be taxed differently.
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    Post by sykog June 17th 2009, 3:34 pm

    No more states please.
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    Post by Boom June 17th 2009, 6:29 pm

    We in NY state who do not live in NYC all want to secceed from NYC NYC is where ALL the money goes.
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    Post by codeorange June 19th 2009, 11:54 pm

    sykog77 wrote:No more states please.

    Ditto. IMO, we may have too many states as it is. I think that's part of this country's problem. We have too many states to worry about. :study:
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    Post by Erazor June 20th 2009, 1:07 am

    You're right. We should have never expanded past the original 13 colonies. We don't need that whole western area.
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    Post by Zez June 20th 2009, 1:27 am

    Erazor wrote:We don't need that whole western area.

    Except for California.
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    Post by Erazor June 20th 2009, 1:35 am

    Zezima wrote:
    Erazor wrote:We don't need that whole western area.

    Except for California.
    Apparently more states is a problem. We should just strip everything down to Michigan.
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    Post by Zez June 20th 2009, 1:36 am

    Yes, let's keep our Garbage Dump. eye roll

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