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    Post by Code One December 15th 2009, 2:43 pm

    Tails wasn't in Sonic 1.
    Yet he was in Sonic 2.
    And he WAS in Sonic CD (CAMEO).
    But was in Sonic 3.
    Yet not in Sonic & Knuckles.
    Just look at that pattern.

    Sonic 2 takes place before Sonic 1 in choronological order, and Sonic 3 follows, then Sonic & Knuckles, then Sonic CD, and then Sonic 1.. See where I'm going with this?


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    Post by Phantom December 15th 2009, 3:52 pm

    Tails was on vacation.
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    Post by Jmh December 15th 2009, 4:13 pm

    I thought it went 1 then CD then the rest...
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    Post by The Freedom Fighter December 15th 2009, 4:29 pm

    Jmh wrote:I thought it went 1 then CD then the rest...
    That's the logical way.
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    Post by Code One December 15th 2009, 5:03 pm

    As is mine.
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    Post by NeoMetalSonic December 15th 2009, 6:08 pm

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    That's the logical way.
    No CD comes after 2
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    Post by The Freedom Fighter December 15th 2009, 6:18 pm

    TalkingObject wrote:
    The Freedom Fighter wrote:
    Jmh wrote:I thought it went 1 then CD then the rest...
    That's the logical way.
    No CD comes after 2
    That doesn't make much sense though. The graphics, the function, the lack of Tails, and the continuity of the Death Egg have more support for 1-CD-2.
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    Post by NeoMetalSonic December 15th 2009, 6:20 pm

    The Freedom Fighter wrote:
    TalkingObject wrote:
    The Freedom Fighter wrote:
    Jmh wrote:I thought it went 1 then CD then the rest...
    That's the logical way.
    No CD comes after 2
    That doesn't make much sense though. The graphics, the function, the lack of Tails, and the continuity of the Death Egg have more support for 1-CD-2.
    1.What about the Graphics?
    2.Tails doesn't have to be ALWAYS with him
    3.Eggman could have try to do something new between Sonic2 and 3
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    Post by The Freedom Fighter December 15th 2009, 6:23 pm

    TalkingObject wrote:
    1.What about the Graphics?
    2.Tails doesn't have to be ALWAYS with him
    3.Eggman could have try to do something new between Sonic2 and 3
    1. Graphics look similar to STH 1.
    2. No, but it makes sense for him to be for that time period.
    3. Most likely no. STH 3 seems to be a week after STH 2. He'd be spending that time fixing up the Death Egg.
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    Post by NeoMetalSonic December 15th 2009, 6:26 pm

    The Freedom Fighter wrote:
    1. Graphics look similar to STH 1.
    2. No, but it makes sense for him to be for that time period.
    3. Most likely no. STH 3 seems to be a week after STH 2. He'd be spending that time fixing up the Death Egg.
    1.The graphics don't really matter
    2. Then where was he when the Death Egg came back up?
    3.Evidence on Sonic 3 took a week after Sonic2
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    Post by The Freedom Fighter December 15th 2009, 6:34 pm

    TalkingObject wrote:
    The Freedom Fighter wrote:
    1. Graphics look similar to STH 1.
    2. No, but it makes sense for him to be for that time period.
    3. Most likely no. STH 3 seems to be a week after STH 2. He'd be spending that time fixing up the Death Egg.
    1.The graphics don't really matter
    2. Then where was he when the Death Egg came back up?
    3.Evidence on Sonic 3 took a week after Sonic2
    1. They help.
    2. He's following you around, as far as I remember.
    3. http://www.sonic-jam.org/sisghzs:md-sonic3s-t2
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    Post by sykog December 15th 2009, 10:32 pm

    I thought it was Sonic 1- CD- 2 also.
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    Post by NeoMetalSonic December 16th 2009, 6:17 am

    The Freedom Fighter wrote:
    TalkingObject wrote:
    The Freedom Fighter wrote:
    1. Graphics look similar to STH 1.
    2. No, but it makes sense for him to be for that time period.
    3. Most likely no. STH 3 seems to be a week after STH 2. He'd be spending that time fixing up the Death Egg.
    1.The graphics don't really matter
    2. Then where was he when the Death Egg came back up?
    3.Evidence on Sonic 3 took a week after Sonic2
    1. They help.
    2. He's following you around, as far as I remember.
    3. http://www.sonic-jam.org/sisghzs:md-sonic3s-t2
    1.No tey don't
    2.WHERE in Sonic & Knuckes?
    3.That being said Sonic & Eggman still could have have their adventure in one week
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    Post by The Freedom Fighter December 16th 2009, 12:32 pm

    TalkingObject wrote:
    The Freedom Fighter wrote:
    TalkingObject wrote:
    The Freedom Fighter wrote:
    1. Graphics look similar to STH 1.
    2. No, but it makes sense for him to be for that time period.
    3. Most likely no. STH 3 seems to be a week after STH 2. He'd be spending that time fixing up the Death Egg.
    1.The graphics don't really matter
    2. Then where was he when the Death Egg came back up?
    3.Evidence on Sonic 3 took a week after Sonic2
    1. They help.
    2. He's following you around, as far as I remember.
    3. http://www.sonic-jam.org/sisghzs:md-sonic3s-t2
    1.No tey don't
    2.WHERE in Sonic & Knuckes?
    3.That being said Sonic & Eggman still could have have their adventure in one week
    1. Yes, they do. The date of expected release, the stories of what it was to be, the Spin Dash and it's inferiority compared to the later games, they all help as well.
    2. How would I know? That's not the canon version. STH3&K is the canon version, since it has both stories.
    3. For one, that would mean Sonic left Tails to go on vacation, which doesn't match either's attitude. For two, that means Eggman either completely took over Little Planet in like a day, since he'd be busy with the Death Egg for STH 2 and earlier. And for three, if so, the adventure would mean he'd lose track of the Death Egg and have to go look for it again.
    All of the problems listed as easily resolved by putting it 1-CD-2.
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    Post by NeoMetalSonic December 16th 2009, 2:32 pm

    1.I have no idea what you mean?
    2.How is S3&K the canon version I DEMAND PROOF otherwise They are both two different games
    3.Tails and Sonic gone their serperate ways before, and Eggman has plenty of robots to work on the Death Egg for him, he has a IQ of 300 he wouldn't simply just forgot about the Death Egg and you're forgeting the only reason Eggman can't take over the world because Sonic is there however Little Planet has no defender of justice so Eggman had no problem taking it over
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    Post by The Freedom Fighter December 16th 2009, 2:51 pm

    TalkingObject wrote:1.I have no idea what you mean?
    2.How is S3&K the canon version I DEMAND PROOF otherwise They are both two different games
    3.Tails and Sonic gone their serperate ways before, and Eggman has plenty of robots to work on the Death Egg for him, he has a IQ of 300 he wouldn't simply just forgot about the Death Egg and you're forgeting the only reason Eggman can't take over the world because Sonic is there however Little Planet has no defender of justice so Eggman had no problem taking it over
    1. The graphics relate more to STH than STH 2, STH:CD was planned to come out before STH 2, hence the teaser for Tails and the Tornado, the stories that STH:CD and STH 2 were going to be the same game, and the Spin Dash statement should speak for itself, as Spin Dash doesn't exist in 1, is not as grand as 2's in CD, and is improved in 2.
    2. Because they were meant to be together, and you need them to be together in order to experience Knuckles' story.
    3. Yes, but not before STH3&K. Eggman needed to be on the island, as Knuckles literally meets him there. And since Eggman needs the ME, he needs to stay and search for it. But if he was taking over Little Planet, he would have forgotten about the Death Egg, what with the possibilities it would bring. Little Planet would still take time to take over, finding safe places for his machines, building Metal Sonic and bosses, etc. Not to mention looking for the Time Stones. A lack of defenders is not the problem. It's the time it takes to do it. Giving him the month Little Planet appears every year is enough, but a week is too little of a time frame.
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    Post by NeoMetalSonic December 16th 2009, 2:57 pm

    1.Now you're just making up stuff the Spin dash is weaker is because then there no use for the Run dash
    2.No you don't Tails don't always need to be in Sonic's shadow
    3.Time on Earth and Little Planet is completly different plus Eggman had power over the Time Stones giving him all the time he need(Past,Present,Badfuture) adn I still don't see how Eggman can just forget A HEADQUARTERS THE SIZE OF A MOON in a instance adn the machines were simply pre-created to take over Little Planet

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    Post by HolyNightmare December 16th 2009, 2:59 pm

    No, the problems aren't really fixed if you do that TFF. You still have to explain why Eggman decided to use the inferior Mecha Sonic(Silver Sonic) when Metal Sonic is clearly superior in everyway.
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    Post by The Freedom Fighter December 16th 2009, 3:08 pm

    TalkingObject wrote:1.Now you're just making up stuff the Spin dash is weaker is because then there no use for the Run dash
    2.No you don't Tails don't always need to be in Sonic's shadow
    3.Time on Earth and Little Planet is completly different plus Eggman had power over the Time Stones giving him all the time he need(Past,Present,Badfuture) adn I still don't see how Eggman can just forget A HEADQUARTERS THE SIZE OF A MOON in a instance adn the machines were simply pre-created to take over Little Planet

    and Remember SONIC IS NOT ZELDA!
    1. Yes, but compare the two. Spin Dash needs to be charged before release in CD. Not so in STH 2 and anon.
    2. Tails never needed to. He wanted to be though.
    3. No it's not? Eggman doesn't get them; that's why they are still in the Special Stages. You don't need the Time Stones to time travel. And that's why 1-2-CD doesn't work; he'd be forgetting the Death Egg on Angel Island to take over time. Like I said, he'd have to create them, travel back in time, find a place to place them and turn them on, within a short amount of time.
    I didn't say it was. :Confusion:
    HolyNightmare wrote:No, the problems aren't really fixed if you do that TFF. You still have to explain why Eggman decided to use the inferior Mecha Sonic(Silver Sonic) when Metal Sonic is clearly superior in everyway.
    That is problematic, at first. But Eggy himself fixed that up. By lasering his own creation in the back.
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    Post by NeoMetalSonic December 16th 2009, 3:15 pm

    1.Once again they weaken the Spin dash in favor of the Run dash
    2.No he doesn't , he wants to HELP sonic not be ignore
    3.Didn't you saw the ending in Sonic CD eggman clearly had a timestone also whats with you and Eggman forgeting the Death Egg ever heard of MULTITASKING and once again SONIC IS NOT ZELDA! ,Eggman creations are more advanced in CD than in 2(Example Silver Sonic to Metal Sonic and then Mehca Sonic in K which means he is learning how to build a better Robot Sonic)
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    Post by The Freedom Fighter December 16th 2009, 3:35 pm

    TalkingObject wrote:1.Once again they weaken the Spin dash in favor of the Run dash
    2.No he doesn't , he wants to HELP sonic not be ignore
    3.Didn't you saw the ending in Sonic CD eggman clearly had a timestone also whats with you and Eggman forgeting the Death Egg ever heard of MULTITASKING and once again SONIC IS NOT ZELDA! ,Eggman creations are more advanced in CD than in 2(Example Silver Sonic to Metal Sonic and then Mehca Sonic in K which means he is learning how to build a better Robot Sonic)
    1. Okay. My point still stands.
    2. What? :Confusion: Sonic isn't ignored, and Tails doesn't want to be ignored. SADX shows us that.
    3. Yes. By the ending. Not the beginning. Multitasking on two huge, very important projects is quite difficult, especially when his presence is required for both locations. Of course Sonic is not Zelda; why would you think so? While that may or may not be true for advancement, he hadn't built most of those badniks. He had his machines and the power of time travel to help with that. And really, the idea of advancement doesn't work well, considering the recent times of Eggman's inventing; but, to use that anyway, I already put my answer as to why Silver is inferior: had more time to build Metal, lost Metal and couldn't use him, and so he had only a week to make Silver.
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    Post by NeoMetalSonic December 16th 2009, 3:48 pm

    2.Then you NEVER be in some one else Shadow to be know
    3.Like I said before Eggman has robots to help him on his projects while he is Trying to take over Little Planet his home base is reparing his Death Egg from Sonic 2 as for Metal Sonic now I know you're making stuff up Because if we go by what you said then Mehca Sonic would be alot less complete
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    Post by The Freedom Fighter December 16th 2009, 4:04 pm

    TalkingObject wrote:2.Then you NEVER be in some one else Shadow to be know
    3.Like I said before Eggman has robots to help him on his projects while he is Trying to take over Little Planet his home base is reparing his Death Egg from Sonic 2 as for Metal Sonic now I know you're making stuff up Because if we go by what you said then Mehca Sonic would be alot less complete
    2. .... :Confusion: I have no idea what you're saying.
    3. He needs to be at Little Planet to fight Sonic. He needs to be on Angel Island to meet Knuckles and steal the ME should he find it. And your theory says he has to be in both places within a week. Not easy, logical, or with reason. IF the Little Planet project succeeded, the Death Egg would be useless. If the Death Egg rise was successful, the Little Planet project is useless. Mecha isn't as advanced as Metal. Metal contains a high powered engine and various technology. Mecha is more in line with Silver, so it wouldn't take as long. I messed up truthfully in that statement, counting STH 2 twice, but not in a manner that throws things too far off.
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    Post by NeoMetalSonic December 16th 2009, 4:12 pm

    I thought you said 3 takes place a week AFTER 2 not IN the the week plus he didn'tsteal the ME in 3 just in K PLUS he wants to rule as much land and Little Planet is just a small project until the Death Egg is repaired from 2 and how is Mecha inferior than Metal? Mecha is shown to have more smarter and indepent than Metal Sonic
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    Post by The Freedom Fighter December 16th 2009, 4:27 pm

    TalkingObject wrote:I thought you said 3 takes place a week AFTER 2 not IN the the week plus he didn'tsteal the ME in 3 just in K PLUS he wants to rule as much land and Little Planet is just a small project until the Death Egg is repaired from 2 and how is Mecha inferior than Metal? Mecha is shown to have more smarter and indepent than Metal Sonic
    I overestimated. According to the manual, it was a few days later.
    I never said he stole the ME in 3.
    Little Planet is a big project; he'd be able to conquer the world with ease using the Little Planet and the Time Stones.
    Yes, but I think Metal has better tech, like I said. Metal also has independence, and perhaps intelligence, but I'd agree Mecha may have more.

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