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    Post by Gin93 July 20th 2010, 11:59 pm

    Sonic and Elise apparently still remember the events of the games(except silver acording to rivals...thats a selective memory loss ) due to the time paradox. Even at the end after Sonic runs past her, she says she felt like someone was calling her, the lady says its just the wind, but Elise says it felt familiar, and smiles realizing it's sonic. Sonic also remembers her(as he still goes to the festival, even though he went originally before the time revision as eggman was attacking, but this time no eggman) he also watches her feather float by at the end. smiling too
    other websites seem to support this to

    Elise profile from sonicwiki
    "Because of this, it seems that, although the game's events never
    actually happened, Sonic and Elise retain their memories of them to
    some extent due to their involvement in the paradox that happened"

    sonic wiki 06 article
    "he events of the game were erased, although Sonic and Elise nonetheless appear to have a recollection of them. "

    and from wikipedia
    "The scene cuts to Sonic on a rooftop, watching her and smiling. Both
    events indicate that Sonic and Elise have a recollection of the game's
    events to some extent."

    Also the lyrics to my destiny , which is Elise's theme, seems to support this.
    as it talks about how she wishes sonic never left her.
    http://info.sonicretro.org/My_Destiny

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    Post by Shade July 21st 2010, 12:02 pm

    Well, from the sound of it, Sonic and Elise seem to have had a few adventures together.
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    Post by Gin93 July 22nd 2010, 2:02 pm

    Sweet Silence wrote:Well, from the sound of it, Sonic and Elise seem to have had a few adventures together.
    they did through out 06
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    Post by TheShadowWalker July 22nd 2010, 2:17 pm

    Well, thanks for ruining the game for me.
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    Post by Shade July 22nd 2010, 2:18 pm

    Gin93 wrote:
    Sweet Silence wrote:Well, from the sound of it, Sonic and Elise seem to have had a few adventures together.
    they did through out 06

    And maybe they will also have another game together sometime in the future.
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    Post by Hayzer July 22nd 2010, 2:20 pm

    Oh dear...

    No, no, no.

    Elise and Sonic look at the moon. That's all that happens at the end of 06.

    You're led on to believe that what happened happened, but it didn't because everything was retconned. They don't mention anything about 06 in other games because they don't remember it.

    Elise doesn't remember Sonic and Sonic doesn't remember Elise.

    The entire game killed itself thoroughly.
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    Post by Shade July 22nd 2010, 2:32 pm

    Elise doesn't remember Sonic and Sonic doesn't remember Elise.

    This means that we won't see them together in any more games? I must say, it's a shame.
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    Post by Gin93 July 22nd 2010, 4:19 pm

    Hayzer wrote:Oh dear...

    No, no, no.

    Elise and Sonic look at the moon. That's all that happens at the end of 06.

    You're led on to believe that what happened happened, but it didn't because everything was retconned. They don't mention anything about 06 in other games because they don't remember it.

    Elise doesn't remember Sonic and Sonic doesn't remember Elise.

    The entire game killed itself thoroughly.
    No dude...They do remember each other, but that doesn't mean that she'll come back or make references to it.
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    Post by Shade July 22nd 2010, 4:24 pm

    Gin93 wrote:
    Hayzer wrote:Oh dear...

    No, no, no.

    Elise and Sonic look at the moon. That's all that happens at the end of 06.

    You're led on to believe that what happened happened, but it didn't because everything was retconned. They don't mention anything about 06 in other games because they don't remember it.

    Elise doesn't remember Sonic and Sonic doesn't remember Elise.

    The entire game killed itself thoroughly.
    No dude...They do remember each other, but that doesn't mean that she'll come back

    Wait a minute... First Hayzer is saying that somehow, Sonic and Elise forget each other. Now you're saying they haven't forgotten each other. I'm officially confused.
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    Post by Gin93 July 22nd 2010, 5:15 pm

    Sweet Silence wrote:
    Gin93 wrote:
    No dude...They do remember each other, but that doesn't mean that she'll come back

    Wait a minute... First Hayzer is saying that somehow, Sonic and Elise forget each other. Now you're saying they haven't forgotten each other. I'm officially confused.
    then the last scene at the end of the game would be pointless if the didn't remember each other
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    Post by Hayzer July 22nd 2010, 6:48 pm

    Gin93 wrote:
    Sweet Silence wrote:

    Wait a minute... First Hayzer is saying that somehow, Sonic and Elise forget each other. Now you're saying they haven't forgotten each other. I'm officially confused.
    then the last scene at the end of the game would be pointless if the didn't remember each other

    She said it felt familiar... At best that's a Deja vu. That doesn't mean she remembers everything. The only she does is mention that. And the. Sonic looks at the moon. Deja vu means you have a familiarity with something you thought happened but really didn't. That's all that's happening here...

    If they remembered everything, it would defeat the purpose of retconing the game.
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    Post by Gin93 July 22nd 2010, 7:02 pm

    Hayzer wrote:
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    then the last scene at the end of the game would be pointless if the didn't remember each other

    She said it felt familiar... At best that's a Deja vu. That doesn't mean she remembers everything. The only she does is mention that. And the. Sonic looks at the moon. Deja vu means you have a familiarity with something you thought happened but really didn't. That's all that's happening here...

    If they remembered everything, it would defeat the purpose of retconing the game.
    she smiles right after she says it. she does remember. just because they remember doesn't mean they'll make a ref to it, bedsides, they caused a paradox.
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    Post by Hayzer July 22nd 2010, 8:16 pm

    Gin93 wrote:
    Hayzer wrote:

    She said it felt familiar... At best that's a Deja vu. That doesn't mean she remembers everything. The only she does is mention that. And the. Sonic looks at the moon. Deja vu means you have a familiarity with something you thought happened but really didn't. That's all that's happening here...

    If they remembered everything, it would defeat the purpose of retconing the game.
    she smiles right after she says it. she does remember. just because they remember doesn't mean they'll make a ref to it, bedsides, they caused a paradox.

    Oh, so because she smiled, that proves she remembers everything?

    Actually the whole game was paradox-ridden, then they wiped out the Flames of Disaster. Then the paradoxes ceased. 06 didn't happen. Period.

    And like I said before (and you failed to respond to), if they remembered everything, it would defeat the purpose of the retcon...
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    Post by Super Racer Z July 22nd 2010, 10:07 pm

    Gin93 wrote:
    Hayzer wrote:

    She said it felt familiar... At best that's a Deja vu. That doesn't mean she remembers everything. The only she does is mention that. And the. Sonic looks at the moon. Deja vu means you have a familiarity with something you thought happened but really didn't. That's all that's happening here...

    If they remembered everything, it would defeat the purpose of retconing the game.
    she smiles right after she says it. she does remember. just because they remember doesn't mean they'll make a ref to it, bedsides, they caused a paradox.

    She smiles because it's familiar. I'm not sure about you, but most people enjoy familiar things. (unless they are bored of them, or they weren't positive things) This means that she likely smiled because she enjoyed the familiarity of the blue wind during the speech. Also, Sonic going to the town even though Eggman didn't, you can likely chalk that up to a paradox, unless Sonic was going to the town anyways and just happened to find Eggman the first time.

    If you notice, two of those (public created) articles say, "to some extent." That means that they weren't full on memories of the whole thing, instead it means they had a recollection of the situation at some smaller extent, likely only in familiarity.

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