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Sonic: Since when did it become a love story?
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I was just looking through my Sonic comics in the 130-150 range (when I started and stopped buying again), and I noticed a lot of love stories becoming involved with the main story. I also noticed some anime/manga incluence in the artistry. WTF? Since when is Sonic about love? Why does Tails have to get all emo when he sees Sonic with that other fox?
What is your opinion on the subjects?
What is your opinion on the subjects?
Gamma The Great
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Tails loves Fiona, and sonic and Fiona were dating, but it turns out Fiona was an evil b*tch. Archie has way more love plots than you stated. A lot more.
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Your perception of what Tails was like is yours. But it's simply a regular emotion that everyone has. Try not to take it too seriously.
Although, I do find it a bit out of place for so much of this drama. I forgave it when I found out they actually had a basis for doing a Sonic vs. Tails fight (although not a very likable one).
Although, I do find it a bit out of place for so much of this drama. I forgave it when I found out they actually had a basis for doing a Sonic vs. Tails fight (although not a very likable one).
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Maybe a gppd set up for a fight, but come on. Talk about lame, Sonic the hedgehog and his sidekick mad at each other because of some stupid video game character romance. WTF?
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Comic book character romance. Big difference.
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SupaSEGA wrote:Maybe a gppd set up for a fight, but come on. Talk about lame, Sonic the hedgehog and his sidekick mad at each other because of some stupid video game character romance. WTF?
That's sort of what I said except a bit more prematurly. :Spin:
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The Freedom Fighter wrote:Comic book character romance. Big difference.
Exactly. Comics call for a lot more drama to compensate their lack of better visuals as opposed to the games.
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I object. The visuals are *usually* fine, and were probably better to look at then the MS/Genny games, which were out when the comic first started.
Drama doesn't have to be in every story. There's been long running series(es?) in television, movies, books, comics, etc, and most of them don't add pointless drama. Honestly, I think it's just the writers trying to satisfy the younger readers who may feed into some of that stuff.
Maybe it's just me, but Sonic isn't a video game series I want to associate with a save the world esque, romantic, real world lifestyle. He's a talking blue hedgehog, with a bunch of oddly colored, oddly behaving friends. Why make it serious with all of this crappy romance novel additions? It's pointless.
The older comics, I'm talking like maybe the first 100, were much better than anything I've seen semirecently.
Drama doesn't have to be in every story. There's been long running series(es?) in television, movies, books, comics, etc, and most of them don't add pointless drama. Honestly, I think it's just the writers trying to satisfy the younger readers who may feed into some of that stuff.
Maybe it's just me, but Sonic isn't a video game series I want to associate with a save the world esque, romantic, real world lifestyle. He's a talking blue hedgehog, with a bunch of oddly colored, oddly behaving friends. Why make it serious with all of this crappy romance novel additions? It's pointless.
The older comics, I'm talking like maybe the first 100, were much better than anything I've seen semirecently.
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Likwise, drama doesn't always have to mean romantic either guys. Drama is good too have in any good story in my opinion but this heavy romantic stuff factually isn't needed.
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Exactly. I just wish they wouldn't wreck Sonic by sending him and the universe into the realm of love, making it seem like a crappy and generic teen anime or something.
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Who says it's wrecking him? For all we know, it could be sending Sonic skyrocketing.
And love has always been a concept in Sonic, even before the games were made. Archie just takes it farther, which, considering Sonic's age group and everything, it makes sense to deal with the topic.
And love has always been a concept in Sonic, even before the games were made. Archie just takes it farther, which, considering Sonic's age group and everything, it makes sense to deal with the topic.
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The Freedom Fighter wrote:Who says it's wrecking him? For all we know, it could be sending Sonic skyrocketing.
And love has always been a concept in Sonic, even before the games were made. Archie just takes it farther, which, considering Sonic's age group and everything, it makes sense to deal with the topic.
Exactly. How do you know romance decreases Sonic's popularity? Inf act, I have read the responses, and it actually pique's reader's interests.
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Yes. Of course no romance at all would be as strange as heavily implied romance as well.
Find the right center and you should be fine.
Find the right center and you should be fine.
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Crystal Chaotix 3 wrote:Yes. Of course no romance at all would be as strange as heavily implied romance as well.
Find the right center and you should be fine.
Cookie and Rep point for this post. Winner of this topic.
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Not exactly. The age group is primarily preteens, am I correct? There are several other issues they could deal with: homosexuality, cliches (goth, emo, etc.), death, teen sex, alchohol, and drug use and abuse, etc.
You can go on and on. Soon, somebody will be stupid enough to complain to the right person, and things may go downhill, like Sesame Street. (Sonic and Tails, the homosexual couple, Bunny the lesbian Rabbot, Roter the vegetarian anyone?) If enough people get their way, Archie may have passed a line they can't go back on.
You can go on and on. Soon, somebody will be stupid enough to complain to the right person, and things may go downhill, like Sesame Street. (Sonic and Tails, the homosexual couple, Bunny the lesbian Rabbot, Roter the vegetarian anyone?) If enough people get their way, Archie may have passed a line they can't go back on.
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SupaSEGA wrote:Not exactly. The age group is primarily preteens, am I correct? There are several other issues they could deal with: homosexuality, cliches (goth, emo, etc.), death, teen sex, alchohol, and drug use and abuse, etc.
You can go on and on. Soon, somebody will be stupid enough to complain to the right person, and things may go downhill, like Sesame Street. (Sonic and Tails, the homosexual couple, Bunny the lesbian Rabbot, Roter the vegetarian anyone?) If enough people get their way, Archie may have passed a line they can't go back on.
You don't think any of those topics have to do with romance then? :Wut?:
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Cliches, sex doesn't always have to do with romance, rape, druge and alchohol abuse and use, death of a loved one, vegetarians, etc.
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Well I'm just glad this whole Tails and Fiona thing is done. But what annoys me the most is all the fanmail encouriging the love stories even MORE. :Whoa!:
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Told you. :Amy: :Cool:sykog77 wrote:Well I'm just glad this whole Tails and Fiona thing is done. But what annoys me the most is all the fanmail encouriging the love stories even MORE. :Whoa!:
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*looks around* Whazzis?The Freedom Fighter wrote:Told you. :Amy: :Cool:sykog77 wrote:Well I'm just glad this whole Tails and Fiona thing is done. But what annoys me the most is all the fanmail encouriging the love stories even MORE. :Whoa!:
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SupaSEGA wrote:Cliches, sex doesn't always have to do with romance, rape, druge and alchohol abuse and use, death of a loved one, vegetarians, etc.
Might have to explain that a little more. I'm having trouble thinking of a situation where sex isn't a result of romance of some kind (consent or otherwise forced).
And why would any of this be in a Sonic comic anyway? Like I said, an overwhelming amount of romance isn't good for this series but none at all would be a bit weird.
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How would it be weird? Stories don't need romance to thrive.
Casual sex. People who have sex just for the exhilaration, I guess, without any romantic attraction sometimes.
Casual sex. People who have sex just for the exhilaration, I guess, without any romantic attraction sometimes.
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SupaSEGA wrote:How would it be weird? Stories don't need romance to thrive.
No they don't. But in this case it'd be a bit weird considering what we're working with. And no, I don't mean generally the fictional status of a talking hedgehog and his mates.
Of course romance doesn't always mean that it has to be particularly romantic. It's kinda like the thing Amy has going for Sonic.
I like to touch on all points. I think a good story can do so without confusing people on what it's general genre is suppose to be.
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I like the Knuckles Julie-Su aspect. It's cool to see a side of a character you never see anywhere else.
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Sometimes though people have to make sacrifices within the economic state. If it sells, they'll use it. Personally, though, some of the relationships on the comic I tend to disagree with, but hey its my own.
And what would you expect from two best friends after one girl? (Not saying human tendency obviously but you know where I'm getting at...)
And what would you expect from two best friends after one girl? (Not saying human tendency obviously but you know where I'm getting at...)