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    Post by Zezima July 17th 2010, 1:50 pm

    Note: This was not written by one of the 3, main, official ForuMotion site reviewers, but it is still considered official by the staff at FM, this is only here to denote that it may not be the highest of quality because of this reason, however, you may take it for what you will.

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    ForuMotion's TSC Review Genera12 Generalities


    1. First Impressions (Score: 15/20):

      Wow, Looking at your forum, all I can say is dedication. Everything about your forum is Sonic... It's a little dark for my liking, and I reccomend adding maybe other options for your background such as lighter options. Your font is the other thing i noticed. I don't particularly like the Times font on a forum, maybe switch it to something more stylish (Note: This is just my opinion)

    2. Categories & Forums (Score: 7/10):

      Looking at your forums made me a little confused. The top category is Community Issues, and it has News Discussion and a Store, Usually Issue means problems, so this may confuse some other people. Also, you have some grammar problems in your forum. Under New Member; is this introductions? If so, Call it that, or change it to New Members, because New Member doesn't make sense. Also, all about you shouldn't really fit under New Member, because non new members could post there too. Maybe you should rename the category to About or Members, or Our Members. Other than this, I haven't other issues with your categories and forums, They just need a bit of re-organizing to make them look more professional. I've put a list below that might help you organize it.

      Community Forums

      Site News
      Site Discsussion
      Store

      Member Discsussion

      New Members
      All About You

      All about Sonic

      Video Games
      Cartoons and Comics
      Characters

      Off Topic

      Entertainment
      Random Stuff

      Gaming

      General Gaming
      Forum Games (moved)
      SEGA
      Nintendo
      Microsoft
      Sony

      Fan Media

      Fan Art
      Fan Sites
      Fan Fiction


    Generalities total :: 22/30

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    1. Graphics (Score: 17/20):
      Banner

      I like the banner, It includes all of the characters from sonic, and provides a reflection below. I also like the Evil Dude in the background (sorry, i forgot his name). To make it stand out, maybe make the next a lighter color, overall it's a great banner, well done :)

      Navigation Bar

      Your nav bar is clean and simple, and is easy to read, which is a big plus. It's elegant, stands out well against the background, and the register and Log In is the most visible, which is always good a forum. Well thought of.

      Forum Icons

      Sonic Community really fits, Because once again the forum icons are Sonic. I like how they are gray, makes it noticeable that there clearly isnt a new post, and then when they change is better :D Well done.

      'Who Is Online?' Image

      Sonic looking at the names and scraching his head is pretty cool. I like that alot. It's creative, especially how he looks right down the line of registered users. Creative once again. Well done.

    2. Forum Layout & Colors (Score: 6/10):

      As I've discussed about the forum layout above, there's some things that can be improved (Check my list)... To repeat, there are some grammar issues, and also some of the forums don't belong in their categories.

      Colors... Hmm... It's too dark for my liking, Like i suggested before maybe have different color choices hooked into your theme (I don't know how to do this so you'll have to ask someone who does to follow through with it.)


    Graphic Design & Layout total :: 23/30

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    1. Population of Groups (Score: 8/10):

      Administrators: 3
      Moderators: 4
      Retired Staff: 25
      Artists: 9 (NOT counting retired)
      Writers: 9 (NOT couting retired or artists)
      Randomers: 11 (Not counting Retired, artists or Writers)

      I find it good how Moderators and Administrators are balanced, Aswell as Artists Writers and Randomers.

    2. Staff Groups / User Groups (Score: 8/10):

      You have 2 staff groups to 4 usergroups (unless artists et c count) then you have 5 Staff groups to No Usergroups. Maybe you should add some user groups such as members group.


    Usergroups :: 16/20

    ForuMotion's TSC Review Foruma30 Forum Activity


    1. Post/Member Ratio & Quantity (Score: 7/10):
      Our users have posted a total of 92207 messages
      We have 800 registered users
      The newest registered user is lightthehedgehog

      For your posts divided by users, on average each user has about 115 posts... Or Should... However, your top 20 posters are almost all above 2000, which means 20 of your users have almost half of the total posts in the forum.

    2. Users Active (Score: 7/10):
      Members connected during last 24 hours : Albino Nega, Auflodern, Bria, Caper the Fox, Celestial Emerald, Chaos_Overlord, chris9801, DarkTheHedgehog, Desertbabe, Erazor, Excalibur Sonic, Gin93, Independence76, karkooshy, kingshadowac, Kuriboh, loanstar744, Mario94, Miles24, montage, Phantom, Pianta, SonicFanPS2, Super Racer Z, Sweet Silence, Sweet_Savannah_Charmy, T@ilz, The Freedom Fighter, The Prodigious Ult Zerda, TheShadowWalker

      That's 33 members, out of 800.. this isn't good for activity... Here's what I reccomend make a contest every month or something similar, Prize can be mod for a week or a rank of some sort.. You decide... It would make the forum more active


    Forum Activity total :: 14/20
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    Post by Shade July 17th 2010, 1:53 pm

    Good news, Zez! Good news! Congratulations!

    I knew you were a good admin, and it is because of this that our forum is scoring very well.

    Now please include this in your advertising, so that TSC will have opportunities to accept even more members than usual, and for us to grow overall.
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    Post by Army July 17th 2010, 2:34 pm

    How could he not remember eggmans name!?!?
    Anyways, yay too us!
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    Post by Auflodern July 17th 2010, 4:14 pm

    so... we got a 70...

    that's a downer...
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    Post by Zezima July 17th 2010, 4:18 pm

    Auflodern wrote:so... we got a 70...

    that's a downer...

    No overall score was given.
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    Post by Auflodern July 17th 2010, 4:26 pm

    22/30=73/100
    23/30=76/100
    16/20=80/100
    14/20=70/100
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    74.75% overall
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    Post by Plix July 17th 2010, 4:33 pm

    Why in the world would he suggest mod for a week? That just might be the worst prize EVER thought of. It'd be chaos.
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    Post by The Freedom Fighter July 17th 2010, 4:40 pm

    Spoiler:
    Not everything...just mostly everything. And really, that's a good thing, since we rarely talk about Sonic, it's good to keep in people's minds this place is about Sonic.
    Darkness saves watt power, so yay for being economical. But the Skin Selector would have helped this.
    Eh, Times is fine, really. It could be different, but oh well.
    So...yeah...5 points lost because we're trying to keep a Sonic vibe and being economical...huh...
    Spoiler:
    Until they read the forum names, which will clarify it with absolute ease.
    All the New Members thing makes sense, I suppose.
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    Forum Games under Gaming because....? I suppose you could say it relates as it's games, but he should have clarified it anyway. And besides, Gaming is more about professional gaming.
    The overall score is a bit harsh, using the faults of a couple of boards to drag down the entire score.
    Spoiler:
    So what dragged the score down 3 points? :???:
    Spoiler:
    Not really...the only one was All About You, and that's pretty easy to change.
    It would be easier if ForuMotion allowed for more Skins on their own Skin system instead of Zezima having to make his own, but oh well.
    Spoiler:
    So...Retired Staff drags us down? Why? Explanation please.
    Spoiler:
    We do...you just said them...you did do research on this site, right?
    Spoiler:
    Alrighty. I guess that's acceptable...I guess.
    Spoiler:
    That's very dangerous to make a member a mod. Not to mention other sites don't offer it and seem to hold activity. However, I do like the idea of contests at least.


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    Post by sykog July 17th 2010, 8:16 pm

    That's not all too impressive.
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    Post by Shade July 17th 2010, 9:25 pm

    sykog wrote:That's not all too impressive.

    Well, they could have given us a much worse score, you know. We should be grateful we got over half marks (doing really well in some areas).
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    Post by Army July 17th 2010, 11:41 pm

    sykog wrote:That's not all too impressive.
    Have them review Sonic World, then compare it with us, it'll seem way impressive.
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    Post by The Freedom Fighter July 18th 2010, 7:41 am

    Sweet Silence wrote:
    sykog wrote:That's not all too impressive.

    Well, they could have given us a much worse score, you know. We should be grateful we got over half marks (doing really well in some areas).
    I can sort of agree. We did well, but really, half the time we were judged way harsh and lost points for nothing.
    And let me say right now, black is so much easier in the morning...I can't even go to any other site now. TSC is first site I go to in the morning not just because it's good, but because it's so dark it doesn't try to blind me.
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    Post by karkooshy July 18th 2010, 10:21 am

    When I read the review I laughed so hard xP
    He's complaining about grammar, and his review has atleast 15 grammatical errors >.<
    A reviewer should not base his scores on opinions. (he kept on mentioning that the skin was too dark- in HIS opinion).
    In the Graphics section of the review he gave you 17/20, but when he talked about it, all his comments were positive. He should have mentioned what made you lose those 3 marks.
    Sorry you didn't get an official to review your forum Zezima.
    If I were to review-the-review, I would've given it a 6/10 (and I'm being generous here).
    Ofcourse, you should appreciate his efforts in completing your review :P
    but he should have done it properly.

    TSC deserves more.
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    Post by The Freedom Fighter July 18th 2010, 11:27 am

    Let me fix these scores up for him.
    18/20
    19/20
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    37/40

    20/20
    8/10
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    28/30

    9/10
    10/10
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    19/20

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    That's our real score. A.K.A. 90%.
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    Post by Army July 18th 2010, 4:42 pm

    karkooshy wrote:When I read the review I laughed so hard xP
    He's complaining about grammar, and his review has atleast 15 grammatical errors >.<
    A reviewer should not base his scores on opinions. (he kept on mentioning that the skin was too dark- in HIS opinion).
    In the Graphics section of the review he gave you 17/20, but when he talked about it, all his comments were positive. He should have mentioned what made you lose those 3 marks.
    Sorry you didn't get an official to review your forum Zezima.
    If I were to review-the-review, I would've given it a 6/10 (and I'm being generous here).
    Ofcourse, you should appreciate his efforts in completing your review :P
    but he should have done it properly.

    TSC deserves more.
    ... what is this I don't even...
    Dude that's what a reviewer is!
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    Post by karkooshy July 18th 2010, 4:46 pm

    Not exactly.
    You can't review something if you're biased.
    If he hates dark skins, that's his problem. He shouldn't include it in the review. Saying a web-skin is bad just cause is dark, is very biased.
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    Post by Shade July 18th 2010, 6:08 pm

    Apparently, according to Sony, if we were graded on the scores we received, the score meant that the grade TSC would have got (were we being graded on this stuff) would have been a C.

    I'm sure you'll all agree that a "C" is a ridiculously low score for a forum as great as ours. We deserve an A+.

    This guy who graded our forum forgot to mention that he found no troll threads. He forgot to mention that we are one of a few forums who can boast that we have never had to close registration due to an influx of trolls. He apparently overlooked the wisdom of our rules and hierachy. He forgot to mention that we don't discriminate between who can follow certain rules and who can't, unlike other forums (Xbox Republic, who allow 360 Fans to be racist), and that we ban EVERYONE (regardless of who they are) for stuff like that. He didn't factor our good leadership, our strength of community or our steel resolve.

    And he also doesn't realise that we are an A+ standard forum. NOT a C Forum. We are an A PLUS forum.
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    Post by T@ilz July 18th 2010, 6:37 pm

    I think the dark design was a nice addition. I can't imagine this site being bright and cheerful.
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    Post by Auflodern July 18th 2010, 7:09 pm

    ok guys
    I am going to say it here, STOP THINKING WE'RE THE BEST FORUM OUT THERE! God you guys think that we're the greatest thing that ever developed off this blue drug addict. Seriously you guys need to step back and take a look at the better forums out there. When you do then this forum isn't as great.
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    Post by karkooshy July 18th 2010, 7:18 pm

    Auflodern wrote:ok guys
    I am going to say it here, STOP THINKING WE'RE THE BEST FORUM OUT THERE! God you guys think that we're the greatest thing that ever developed off this blue drug addict. Seriously you guys need to step back and take a look at the better forums out there. When you do then this forum isn't as great.

    And if you took time to look down at the forums worser than TSC, you'd find out that the distance to the bottom is alot longer than the distance to the top- if you get what I mean :faic:
    TSC was misjudged.
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    Post by Shade July 18th 2010, 7:19 pm

    karkooshy wrote:
    Auflodern wrote:ok guys
    I am going to say it here, STOP THINKING WE'RE THE BEST FORUM OUT THERE! God you guys think that we're the greatest thing that ever developed off this blue drug addict. Seriously you guys need to step back and take a look at the better forums out there. When you do then this forum isn't as great.

    And if you took time to look down at the forums worser than TSC, you'd find out that the distance to the bottom is alot longer than the distance to the top- if you get what I mean :faic:
    TSC was misjudged.

    That's true. There's a reason why I say that Zezima's the best admin so far that I have met. Trust me, Krieg, though there may be forums better than TSC, there are plenty more forums which are worse than TSC.
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    Post by T@ilz July 18th 2010, 7:23 pm

    Sweet Silence wrote:
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    Auflodern wrote:ok guys
    I am going to say it here, STOP THINKING WE'RE THE BEST FORUM OUT THERE! God you guys think that we're the greatest thing that ever developed off this blue drug addict. Seriously you guys need to step back and take a look at the better forums out there. When you do then this forum isn't as great.

    And if you took time to look down at the forums worser than TSC, you'd find out that the distance to the bottom is alot longer than the distance to the top- if you get what I mean :faic:
    TSC was misjudged.

    That's true. There's a reason why I say that Zezima's the best admin so far that I have met. Trust me, Krieg, though there may be forums better than TSC, there are plenty more forums which are worse than TSC.

    Yep. I'm not registered for many of these types of forums, but I HAVE come across many lame/empty forums.
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    Post by The Freedom Fighter July 18th 2010, 8:39 pm

    Hey, this site has King Big's approval.
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    Post by sykog July 18th 2010, 10:02 pm

    Sweet Silence wrote:
    karkooshy wrote:
    Auflodern wrote:ok guys
    I am going to say it here, STOP THINKING WE'RE THE BEST FORUM OUT THERE! God you guys think that we're the greatest thing that ever developed off this blue drug addict. Seriously you guys need to step back and take a look at the better forums out there. When you do then this forum isn't as great.

    And if you took time to look down at the forums worser than TSC, you'd find out that the distance to the bottom is alot longer than the distance to the top- if you get what I mean :faic:
    TSC was misjudged.

    That's true. There's a reason why I say that Zezima's the best admin so far that I have met. Trust me, Krieg, though there may be forums better than TSC, there are plenty more forums which are worse than TSC.
    Nah, I'm way better. That's why I'm not an admin anymore. :faic:
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    Post by Super Racer Z July 18th 2010, 10:24 pm

    Generalities

    1. First Impressions (Score: 15/20):

    Wow, Looking at your forum, all I can say is dedication. Everything about your forum is Sonic... It's a little dark for my liking, and I recommend adding maybe other options for your background such as lighter options. Your font is the other thing i noticed. I don't particularly like the Times font on a forum, maybe switch it to something more stylish (Note: This is just my opinion)

    That wouldn't be a bad idea. If we actually finished up a lighter (not full white, mind you, because that's a bit hard on the eyes) skin for use under the optional skin selector, though it'd have to work with the current banner, unless that can be specific to the skin. I don't mind the font though. That might just be because I'm not one to pay attention to the font unless it's horrid, as I read on a few other forums and learned to just read the words, so I have a hard time thinking of fonts that would fit better.

    2. Categories & Forums (Score: 7/10):

    Looking at your forums made me a little confused. The top category is Community Issues, and it has News Discussion and a Store, Usually Issue means problems, so this may confuse some other people. Also, you have some grammar problems in your forum. Under New Member; is this introductions? If so, Call it that, or change it to New Members, because New Member doesn't make sense. Also, all about you shouldn't really fit under New Member, because non new members could post there too. Maybe you should rename the category to About or Members, or Our Members. Other than this, I haven't other issues with your categories and forums, They just need a bit of re-organizing to make them look more professional. I've put a list below that might help you organize it.

    Community Forums

    Site News
    Site Discussion
    Store

    Member Discussion

    New Members
    All About You

    All about Sonic

    Video Games
    Cartoons and Comics
    Characters

    Off Topic

    Entertainment
    Random Stuff

    Gaming

    General Gaming
    Forum Games (moved)
    SEGA
    Nintendo
    Microsoft
    Sony

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    Fan Art
    Fan Sites
    Fan Fiction


    Generalities total :: 22/30

    Some good observations in there. Member Discussion would probably be a much better name for the thread as All About You isn't a new member only forum, and sometimes discussions go on in the introduction and All About You threads. Community Issues should stay Issues though, because the grammar around it's current use is perfectly fine. It might confuse those who don't understand the word, (and can't Google the definition to learn in 30 seconds) but it's 9 definitions means it fits every topic in the thread. Something other than just Sonic wouldn't be a bad idea for the Sonic thread, but All About Sonic sounds too cheesy. Also, forum games in the thread about actual games? I'm sorry, but that's an hilariously awful idea. Overall, his observations were pretty good, and the score is pretty fair, (more than two thirds of the available points) but his example is a bit of a flop.

    However, I shall make my own list if you'd rather see how I think it should be ordered.

    Community Issues

    Site News
    Site Discussion
    Store
    Topic-which-shall-not-be-viewed-by-mere-mortals

    Member Discussion

    New Members
    All About You

    Sonic Stuff or Sonic the Hedgehog

    Video Games
    Cartoons and Comics
    Characters

    Off Topic

    Entertainment
    Random Stuff
    Forum Games

    Gaming

    General Gaming
    SEGA
    Nintendo
    Microsoft
    Sony

    Fan Media

    Fan Art
    Fan Sites
    Fan Fiction


    Graphic Design & Layout


    1. Graphics (Score: 17/20):
    Banner

    I like the banner, It includes all of the characters from sonic, and provides a reflection below. I also like the Evil Dude in the background (sorry, i forgot his name). To make it stand out, maybe make the next a lighter color, overall it's a great banner, well done :)

    Navigation Bar

    Your nav bar is clean and simple, and is easy to read, which is a big plus. It's elegant, stands out well against the background, and the register and Log In is the most visible, which is always good a forum. Well thought of.

    Forum Icons

    Sonic Community really fits, Because once again the forum icons are Sonic. I like how they are gray, makes it noticeable that there clearly isn't a new post, and then when they change is better :D Well done.

    'Who Is Online?' Image

    Sonic looking at the names and scratching his head is pretty cool. I like that a lot. It's creative, especially how he looks right down the line of registered users. Creative once again. Well done.

    Not much to say about this, other than I like all of the graphics as well. An extremely talented artist making a custom computer drawn picture with all of the characters or some other crazy awesome thing as a banner would be great, but the banner is good as is.

    2. Forum Layout & Colors (Score: 6/10):

    As I've discussed about the forum layout above, there's some things that can be improved (Check my list)... To repeat, there are some grammar issues, and also some of the forums don't belong in their categories.

    Colors... Hmm... It's too dark for my liking, Like i suggested before maybe have different color choices hooked into your theme (I don't know how to do this so you'll have to ask someone who does to follow through with it.)


    Graphic Design & Layout total :: 23/30

    Again, not much to say that wasn't already said.

    Usergroups


    1. Population of Groups (Score: 8/10):

    Administrators: 3
    Moderators: 4
    Retired Staff: 25
    Artists: 9 (NOT counting retired)
    Writers: 9 (NOT counting retired or artists)
    Randomers: 11 (Not counting Retired, artists or Writers)

    I find it good how Moderators and Administrators are balanced, Aswell as Artists Writers and Randomers.

    2. Staff Groups / User Groups (Score: 8/10):

    You have 2 staff groups to 4 usergroups (unless artists etc count) then you have 5 Staff groups to No Usergroups. Maybe you should add some user groups such as members group.


    Usergroups :: 16/20

    Again, nothing to say. The usergroups are fine, and it seems he agreed.

    Forum Activity


    1. Post/Member Ratio & Quantity (Score: 7/10):

    Our users have posted a total of 92207 messages
    We have 800 registered users
    The newest registered user is lightthehedgehog



    For your posts divided by users, on average each user has about 115 posts... Or Should... However, your top 20 posters are almost all above 2000, which means 20 of your users have almost half of the total posts in the forum.

    2. Users Active (Score: 7/10):

    Members connected during last 24 hours : Albino Nega, Auflodern, Bria, Caper the Fox, Celestial Emerald, Chaos_Overlord, chris9801, DarkTheHedgehog, Desertbabe, Erazor, Excalibur Sonic, Gin93, Independence76, karkooshy, kingshadowac, Kuriboh, loanstar744, Mario94, Miles24, montage, Phantom, Pianta, SonicFanPS2, Super Racer Z, Sweet Silence, Sweet_Savannah_Charmy, T@ilz, The Freedom Fighter, The Prodigious Ult Zerda, TheShadowWalker



    That's 33 members, out of 800.. this isn't good for activity... Here's what I recommend make a contest every month or something similar, Prize can be mod for a week or a rank of some sort.. You decide... It would make the forum more active


    Forum Activity total :: 14/20

    BTW, someone doesn't know how to spell reccom(m)end or discsussion (corrected it in the quotes though).

    Anyways, 33 members out of 801 is absolutely not bad in any way. That's like saying the Sega forums are terribly inactive because there's 90 members out of 122,447 members online right now. That's not the way it works damn it. And even if it did, I'm pretty sure prizes wouldn't help that much.


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